palindia

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Story of Sanskrit for Beginners

with 30 comments


Story of Mangos and Ram

Long long ago… very long ago there lived a landlord named Ram; He owned a fertile farm with full of mango trees. Ram and his family lived in a gated community with in the farm. Ram’s farm is known for tasty mangos, which were high priced in the market. They owned this farm for generations. The pesticide, manure used in the farm is kept as a high secret. For so many years they didn’t reveled the formulae by which they produce tasty mangos. People from neighboring villages were not permitted into the farm in order to preserve the secrecy, and also Ram’s family believed that outsiders were inferior to them and would bring impurity into the farm. So they managed all the farming activity by themselves, No outsiders were recruited as farming labor. They earned good money by selling the mangos to the rich and elite of the society. Kings and Queens ate Ram’s fruits believing it’s the best.

Time has passed and the society around Ram changed rapidly, Kingdoms vanished, new powers came in. There came better jobs than cultivating and selling Mangos. The new generation in Ram’s family joined high earning jobs in the new government, they started tasting the new life style and started migrating to new places, enjoyed powerful and respected positions. Slowly all of Ram’s DNA settled up in large cities of the world. The old mango farm is no more alive as there is no body to take care. What is left is only an empty dry land where all the trees perished.

Now all of a sudden, Ram’s successors realized that their pride in mango cultivation is lost. They understood that their traditional unique fruit is dead, No more in the list of favorite fruits in the market. So they wanted to give a rebirth to their old mango farm. They planned to utilize the mango seeds stored by their ancestor’s years ago. But all of the Ram’s kin are now settled up in better places than the old farmhouse and they don’t want to leave their present life style, so they went on to gather local villagers as farming labors so that they get a good workforce to bring back their traditional farm. But the local villagers are now busy with their own farms and are not interested in working at Ram’s farm. And for the villagers it’s their dignity which stops them from accepting the new opportunity offered by Ram’s kin, as once long back Ram’s family didn’t allowed them to work in their farm and considered them as inferior breed.

As nothing can bring the villagers to work, Ram’s kin started spreading a bunch of rumors, they said the farm is the tradition and culture for everyone in the nation, as now its dead everyone has to come and help. They also said their mango is the mother for all fruits of the world, even strawberry and lemon were created from their mango’s; NASA said their mangos can help in computer research and space research. Even then no body turned up. But still Ram’s successors are dreaming in daylight that the innocent villagers will come and work hard to bring back their traditional mango farm.

Story of Sanskrit and Brahmins

In the above mentioned story; replace ‘Mangos and Ram’ with ‘Sanskrit and Brahmins’, you’ll get an interesting social-science drama… Here you go…

Long long ago… very long ago there lived a group of close circuit people named Brahmins whose language was Sanskrit. They lived in separate livelihood called Agrahars or Agraharam. Indigenous people lived outside the Agrahars speaking their own languages other than Sanskrit. Brahmins created and owned so many religious literatures written in Sanskrit, They established themselves as the superior priest clan. Sanskrit was used in all their religious ceremonies; they spread their religion among the indigenous people and also their rulers. Their literatures mentioned four classes of society one below to another (Manusmriti – ‘Laws Of Manu’). And brahmins held the religious and cultural supremacy of the 4 classes. And for generations they never shared their literatures with the other 3 classes of people, because they felt that would shake the rigidity of the four classes. In order to keep others away from the religious literature and the priest job, they blocked people from learning Sanskrit. They projected Sanskrit as god’s own language (Deva Bhasha), they isolated Sanskrit from non-brahmins as they felt that would save the purity of gods own language. Sanskrit enjoyed the status of official religious language and the language of the elite.

Time has passed and the society around Agrahars changed rapidly, Kingdoms vanished, new powers came in, the land became a colony of the British Empire. There came better jobs than being a priest. The new generation of brahmins joined high earning jobs in the new government. Brahmins became lawyers and clerks for the British Empire. Centuries passed and the land was freed from the British. A new Indian nation was born. And this time there were lot more opportunities in government jobs, politics, bureaucracy, etc. They stated tasting the new life style and started migrating to new places, enjoyed powerful and respected positions. Slowly the entire brahmin DNA settled up in large cities of the world. And their old language is no more alive as there is no body to take care. What is left is only a dry literature not read by anyone.

Now all of a sudden, the new generation brahmins realized that their pride in Sanskrit is lost. They understood that their traditional language is dead, No more in the list of spoken languages. So they wanted to give a rebirth to Sanskrit. They planned to utilize the literatures written by their ancestor’s years ago. But all of the brahmins are now settled up in better places than their old priest job and they don’t want to leave their present life style, so they went on to gather non-brahmins as new students for Sanskrit so that they get a good population to bring back their traditional language to the main stream. But today the non-brahmins are now busy with their own language and are not interested in learning a dead language like Sanskrit. And also for the non-brahmins it’s their dignity which stops them from accepting Sanskrit, as once long back brahmins didn’t allowed them to learn and considered them as inferior breed.

As nothing could bring people to learn Sanskrit, the brahmin writers and intellectuals started spreading a bunch of rumors through mass media, their propaganda was also fuelled by brahmin front organizations of Sangh Parivar (RSS, VHP, BJP and so on), They said Sanskrit is the tradition and culture for everyone in the nation, as now it’s dead everyone has to come and help. They also said their Sanskrit is the mother for all languages of the world, even C++ and Java were created from their Sanskrit; NASA said Sanskrit can help in computer research and space research. Even then no body turned up. But still brahmin powers (Sangh Parivar) are dreaming in daylight that the innocent people will come and work hard to give life to Sanskrit.

Key Lessons / Takeaway

  • Sanskrit is not the culture and tradition of whole Indian sub-continent; actually it’s only a brahmin tradition and culture.
  • Sanskrit is already dead. And it was the brahmins who let it die.
  • Sanskrit was never been a mass language of communication during any period of history, it was only practiced during religious ceremonies by brahmins. And brahmins used other languages to communicate with rest of the people.
  • Sanskrit is not the mother of all languages, only a bunch of north Indian languages like Hindi, Gujarati, Marathi etc are derived from Sanskrit.
  • And Sanskrit is not a base language (Proto-Language) like Latin, Chinese or Tamil.
  • Anyone can learn Sanskrit by interest, but should not be carried away by the myth that it is superior to all languages.
  • It’s a good idea to revive Sanskrit, But it’s the brahmins who have to make the effort. It should not be done by the government spending people’s tax money (Why should you pay somebody’s food bill).

 

Enough for this session, See you again with another stuff on Sanskrit.

 

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Written by palindia

August 24, 2014 at 4:01 PM

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  1. Excellent write-up Palindia … The way in which two stories are narrated in parallel and a connection is brought between them , is awesome … Way to go 👍👍

    Jayalakshmi

    August 24, 2014 at 10:27 PM

  2. Agree on all the points about the different classes of people, that existed long ago. Where didn’t the class system exist? It was there in all the countries, in all civilizations and even now (Think of all the barons, dukes and duchess, slavery, racial discrimination. Why the entire country of America was formed to oppose the classicism). Maybe since most of the countries basically speak almost a single language / follow a single religion / culture, the discrimination was not based on these, which is not the same case in India, which has mind boggling diversities.
    But it is not just the Sanskrit that is dying (or dead as per the above blog), all Indian languages and culture. At least the Sanskrit guys are trying to revive an old language, but what are we doing? Anybody still talking in Senthamil? How many of the newer Indian generation can actually read and write in their own native language without spelling mistakes?
    The same PM of India, who always talks in Hindi, congratulated the scientists in ISRO in English, because he knows that we South Indians can accept the foreign language better than one of our very own. Guess to be a PM of India, he/she needs to be a linguist first else get into controversy!!
    We talk so much about Sanskrit being thrust into us, without even being aware of the control that the English has taken over us or the Made in China dumped on us!!
    India is prone to such language / culture issues because she is unique and she is diverse, that is Unity in Diversity, only when we start fighting against each other, will we lose to outsiders, losing the golden heritage.
    I would say, there is no need for hatred against a language, (expressed in an alien language, oh ya, i have heard all the talks of english being the language of unification), none of our ancestors were against it, they in fact translated all the good works in Sanskrit into the local ones, thus enriching all the languages.
    The hatred against Sanskrit / Hindi came in recently, that is how we are still divided and ruled. When we can take pride in our ability to converse in english, why cant we be proud of an ancient language, that existed long before the English actually figured out how to speak!! We can’t say, Sanskrit is not my language, though South India was never ruled by any Hindi speaking Kings, Sanskrit always ruled the temples. I should say this is an example of Unity in Diversity, and not blame the Brahmins for it!!

    I am speaking for a language, and not just for one, but almost all Indian languages and culture and not for the people who anyways would keep fighting for superiority. Brahmin superiority or whatsoever, ofcourse it existed, but people have fought against it and not just against Brahmin superiority, against all bad practices of the Indian Culture. But instead of being cleansed of all bad things, India is becoming the land of perverts and the corrupt. There are so many serious issues that this country of ours is in need of at this hour, not a language crisis!!

    The point is, we need to stop fighting against each other, be proud of each other and think of collectively reviving all things Indian!!

    Malar Sivaram

    August 25, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    • Dear Mam,
      Thanks for reading and commenting.

      Yes, as you say social diversities were/are all over the world. But historically no body claimed only their language is superior to all, But the Sanskrit Guys (from your own word) are claiming it then and there in the history.

      Yes, as you said in the times of globalization almost all languages are facing the danger. Agreed. But who should save those languages is the question. Let the Tamils save Tamil, Gujarati’s save Gujarati, Let the Kannadiga’s save Kannada, the Bengali’s save Bengali. Now tell us who should save Sanskrit? Obviously the great ‘Sanskrit Guys’, Instead the Sangh Parivar is loading the load on everybody who don’t have any link to Sanskrit. How come they spend more than 100 crore of peoples tax money per year for the development of Sanskrit leaving other languages behind. Why should a villager living in remote Manipur pay tax to make Sanskrit living, when his own Meithei language (Manipuri) is dying.

      You said “South Indians can accept the foreign language better than one of our very own.” But for the South Indians Sanskrit is as alien as English/Chinese. For South Indians the British brought English, The Moguls brought Urdu and the Aryans brought Sanskrit. They should not hate others language, but at the same time they cannot not own them too. Because they really don’t have time to save their own Malayalam, Tulu, Coorgi, Telugu, Tamil, Kannada etc. Why should they go and save Sanskrit which was brought to their land only 2000 years ago.

      Yep Mam, India is diverse in culture, Let the government respect all the cultures. Indian languages are diverse, but the 3 main classification of language families are (http://cms.outlookindia.com/Uploads/South_Asian_Language_Families.jpg)
      1) Indo-Aryan Languages (North, West)
      2) Dravidian Languages (South)
      3) Tibeto-Burman Languages (Himalayan, North-East)
      Sanskrit is the base for all Indo-aryan family. Tamil is the base for Dravidian family. And Tibetian, Chinese and Burmese are the base for Tibeto-Burman. Now the government says everyone has to celebrate Sanskrit in CBSE schools. Will you accept if a North-East living Indian ask for a celebration of Chinese or Tibetian in CBSE schools ???. The answer to this question will revel your measure of “Unity in Diversity”.

      And the resistance for Sanskrit in the South is really not new as you’ve said. It existed even a 1000(even more) years ago. You must read the Dravidian people’s literature or Tamil literature, there are so many…You can try them.

      Yep, Agree. We Indians should stop fighting each other. But this fight will eventually end if we stop suppressing each other.
      ThankYou.

      palindia

      August 26, 2014 at 12:37 AM

      • “Historically nobody claimed only their language is the greatest” !! ?? The English say that theirs is the greatest, the French that theirs and so does the Germans, Greek and the Spanish!! The British even scorn at the Americans claiming that only theirs is the original!! So historically, language issues have existed everywhere wherever there is diversity!! What about the sorry state of the Tamils in our neighboring country??

        Almost 100 days into the new govt and already worried about the tax payers money!! 67 years of Indian Independence where has all the tax payers money gone??

        And yeah, whenever I talk to my Kannada / Telugu / Mallu friends that Tamil is the base of all the South Indian Languages, they would immediately declare a war. Share as many links as you can, there are no takers for it. Nobody wants to consider anything other than their own as unique / superior and so, nobody is going to own up other languages. In fact they tease Tamil, asking ‘you guys have a single “cha, dha, ga”, how do you speak’?? These are by fellow South Indians from the same Dravidian Thread. Like how we consider Sanskrit as not ours, nobody other than Tamil would consider it as their own!! Who can forget the riots in Bangalore couple of years ago against all the Tamils, when even TN registered vehicles were smashed.

        I am not a Sanskrit pundit or a fanatic, the following is from my own experience with my 4 year old. He does have sloka competition in school, amongst many other events, also the slokas can be in any language.. He can speak fluently in English and Tamil, has no knowledge of Hindi / Sanskrit. I did teach him slokas in both Tamil and Sanskrit. (By the way, sloka is a simple few lines of prayer to God, nothing more) For him, both the Tamil and the Sanskrit verses are new, since the spoken Tamil is different from the classical one. But he picked up the Sanskrit slokas with ease, and found the Tamil lines difficult. Also long after the competition, he can recollect the Sanskrit verses easily while he forgot the Tamil ones. It makes sense why Sanskrit was used in the temples, and not as a spoken language. A 4 year old knows nothing about Brahmins / Sanskrit / History / Meaning, he can only understand the music of a language. The language was easy to learn by hearing / listening, since it was musical and was easy to remember. I am just being practical and not emotional about any language. This doesn’t imply that i advocate Sanskrit. Nope, I have not taught any other language to my son, maybe I should try!!

        Given that class system existed, and that it was mainly based on the occupation, it was the job of the brahmins to learn and perform the poojas, so they got to learn Sanskrit. The Brahmins never complained that they were not any great warriors or businessmen, so why are we complaining that we never got to do their job??!!

        I am sure that the Sanskrit guys who have woken up from the slumber, would trigger the rest of the language guys to wake up and revive all things Indian collectively. Let us not just complain that only they have woken up. Probably, since there are lot of scriptures written in Sanskrit, and nobody is taking interest in them, the moral policers have taken up the Sanskrit route to inculcate values into the system.

        In a country like India, people have always defeated suppression time and again. We have history to prove it 🙂

        My few thoughts,
        • Let us not fight against each other.
        • Disowning other languages is not going to help.
        • Revival of languages is a good thing. Why being angered at someone efforts? They are not nurturing terrorists or performing illegal activities right?
        • Start spreading the love for our own language rather than the hatred for others, no language is superior and we all know that.
        • Nobody can force something in India, which is a democratic country.
        • The diversity would have vanished long back if people were suppressed. If it is vanishing now, it is because of our own foolishness, call it globalization.

        Malar Sivaram

        August 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM

      • Mam, It seems you have not understood the Article or the comments over here, And also seems you are missing the point that why its written NOW.

        [ It seems you are commenting to another imaginary article in your mind like “Hindutva Vs Dravidian politics” OR “Sanskrit Vs Tamil” OR “Indian Vs Foreign languages” ]

        Anyways its glad to know that your 4 year kid is excelling in Sanskrit sloka, Congrats. All the best.

        palindia

        August 27, 2014 at 3:35 PM

      • I really couldn’t resist a reply, though i couldn’t find the reply at the proper place.

        All I could see from your blog is hatred against Sanskrit / Brahmins / RSS / new govt.

        Either you don’t seem to get my point, or choose not to.

        QA on the current education system,
        • What is the medium of education in most schools (CBSE) in India?
        o English
        • Are regional languages given any importance?
        o The regional languages are learnt as an optional subject, while English is the mandatory first language in almost all schools.
        • Any takers for the regional language?
        o The students prefer to take French as second language, since it is not a difficult subject to study and score marks
        o When there is uproar in Tamil Nadu for making Tamil compulsory, and in Karnataka for even suggesting to make Kannada as the medium of education in primary schools, I don’t understand why we should even bother about a language (read Sanskrit) being celebrated in schools!!

        I am already celebrating or rather worshiping another alien language. What significance does Shakespeare, O.Henry and Coleridge have for an average Indian? Why are even learning them in schools, why not Greek mythology or some African songs instead!!

        Why all you language savers never made any noise all these years when English was being forced on us, why are you shouting NOW?
        Oh I get it. When I am killing my own language, why should I save someone else’s, right ? Or is it like, only I will kill my language and no one else should? My point is, that you are shouting NOW is because the Sanskrit guys have woken up, if they have not woken up, you would never be shouting.

        So instead of shouting against them, let us take it up in a positive way, that at least now we have woken up to contribute something for all languages and all things Indian.

        Thank you very much!

        Malar Sivaram

        August 28, 2014 at 2:08 PM

      • Hello Malar Sivaram, Sorry for the delayed response.

        Great, Now you’ve identified that this blog is against the RSS. Yep.. It’s against the Fascist.

        On your first comment on August 25, You were against regional sentiments on languages. but in this comment (August 27) you are favouring it. What happened?? Really got confused on what you speak for. Earlier you mentioned there must not be any hatred on any language, But now your are up against English and French. WHY???

        From Your words -> ” I am already celebrating or rather worshiping another alien language. What significance does Shakespeare, O.Henry and Coleridge have for an average Indian? Why are even learning them in schools, why not Greek mythology or some African songs instead!!
        Why all you language savers never made any noise all these years when English was being forced on us, why are you shouting NOW? ”

        If you have the right to shout against alien languages like English, French, Greek or African, Others do have their right to shout against another alien language Sanskrit.

        Its not new, Its really really NOT NEW, to see Indian parents feel proud when their kids excel in an alien language than their very own. They raise their collars and proudly advertise that their son is good in english than Marathi (or) their daughter is fluent in Sanskrit than Tamil. This is not common but still prevelent, especially among innocent house wife’s and first generation working women (they brought in the “Mummy” culture), Though its immature, we should not oppose them, as we should not force someone to use a language even though its their mother tongue.

        But we are not discussing on all these things… Still you are not commenting the topic on the board, While we are discussing on Sambar Vadai, you are commenting on Pizza.

        We are discussing on the Origin/death of Sanskrit and on “Who killed Sanskrit”
        We are discussing on the age old myth about Sanskrit being the language of god.
        We are discussing on the ethnicity of Sanskrit speakers.
        We are discussing on the huge difference in amount of money invested on Sanskrit and other language right from 1947.

        स्वागतम्, शुभमस्तु

        palindia

        September 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM

  3. Hi Friend,

    This is really a nice story 🙂 . yes, what if we can do is to tell such stories to our younger generations in order to create awareness. They are such stupid guys who buried their own man-made(mad) language and now crying like anything to let others to embrace their dead language .

    Whatever the advancements come in science, they are ruthlessly claiming such things had already been written/invented in their own language several hundreds sorry several thousands year before.

    Our simple question is that who stopped these guys to invent computer/mobile ..etc or to create valuable advanced Techonologies/Medicines …etc.

    Thanks.

    சிவப்பு

    August 26, 2014 at 12:26 PM

  4. Friend,
    I have forgotten to tell you one thing. The way you narrated the story is really good. Please do continue the such writings.

    Thanks

    சிவப்பு

    August 26, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    • Thank you சிவப்பு, Do tell this story to the younger generation.

      palindia

      August 26, 2014 at 11:07 PM

      • Sorry Malar Sivaram for pointing you here.

        First as this blog owner says, you have not understood or not interested in understanding what he meant to explain. In India there are plenty of languages got abandoned because of this society and our wrong economy-political policies.But no actions have taken place to rescue those languages.

        But the same thing, Sanskrit is already died or abandoned or vanished because of not the people who have been considered untouchables but only the people who have been doing such inhuman things. They have stopped the majority of people who are untouchables from learning Sanskrit and munching the so called Vedas. So this Sanskrit never be a people language means it never be a common language like Thamizh or Thelugu or Dogri or any common languages.

        Why should we spend our money to rescue this dead language? is there any society base needed this language to speak? or any science theory gonna be proven? As we got the news like this year there is an amount 110 crs of Indian rupees allocated to this dead language but say for Thamizh only 9 or 10 crs.

        Lets say , if someone wants to give rebirth to any dead languages then they should do this their own interests and money. If GOVT want to do such activities, then it should be applicable for all languages not only the “So called Holy Language”.

        So can anyone who is praising Sanskrit please answer us the below,

        1) is there any newspapers/magazines published to cover the World news or at least India level?
        2) does anyone write day to day activities like Social issues,politics,Poems ,ideas, Articles,Struggling,Stories anything in this language ?
        3) how many people are communicating with this language?
        4) Whats the writing system in which this language is written?
        5) why should we spend our money to rescue this dead language?

        thanks.

        சிவப்பு

        August 28, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      • Thanks சிவப்பு, for the stats.

        palindia

        September 2, 2014 at 5:57 PM

  5. Well said — “Let the Tamils save Tamil, Gujarati’s save Gujarati, Let the Kannadiga’s save Kannada, the Bengali’s save Bengali. Now tell us who should save Sanskrit? Obviously the great ‘Sanskrit Guys'”

    People belonging to that lingusitic heritage should strive in reviving their language.

    UV

    August 26, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    • Thank you UV,
      And in this nation there are so many languages termed as ‘small languages’ But are actually spoken by a vast population, Example Santali, Bodo, Sourastra, Dogri, Meithei, Coorgi. But why so much importance is given to Sanskrit which is spoken by nobody. We need to ask this to all who are advocating for Sanskrit.

      palindia

      August 26, 2014 at 11:20 PM

  6. Good writeup in the recent time especially after the Modi government jumping for Sanskrit. This thought is need of the time. I myself a brahmin, But completely accept what you say.

    Lakshmi Narayanan

    August 27, 2014 at 3:49 PM

  7. hello palindia, got your blog from my friend, actually I was bjp member for 5 years and believed in hindutva theory. after gujarat riots changed my mind. now Iam not supporting any party. my language is telugu. i accept that in the times of Rss backed rule there wont be any importance to any culture other than hindu,hindi, hindustan. sanskrit week celebration is a Rss hoax to bring obc’s and dalits into trap. your writings is very good. pls continue this.

    ramesh

    August 27, 2014 at 9:39 PM

  8. Good article, smoothly fed. Even kinds can understand how Sanskrit was killed.
    Could you please also write another story on how the dravidian people killed their own religion by adopting hinduism.

    Chandru

    September 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM

  9. India needs simple script at national level.
    One may promote India’s simplest nukta and shirorekha free Gujanagari (Gujarati) script at national level in writing Hindi or Roman script resembling old Brahmi script.
    One may preserve their script and learn Hindi if imposed upon in their regional script using regional words and Hindi grammar the way it’s done by (200 millions+) Urdu speaking people.

    one may read this article.

    Hindi Will Destroy Marathi Language, Culture and Identity in Mumbai and Maharashtra (India)
    http://www.tamiltribune.com/10/0501.html

    બોલો હિન્દી, લેકિન લિખો સર્વ શ્રેષ્ટ નુક્તા/શિરોરેખા મુક્ત ગુજનાગરી લિપિમેં ઔર અપની લિપિમેં !

    Saralhindi

    September 2, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    • @Saralhindi, Hope your comment is regarding the imposition of Hindi which has trashed so many languages like Marathi. What ever script you use, a language imposition is not the correct for a nation like us with so many nationalities and cultures. Why not we follow the technology followed in the UN where a bunch of languages are official, and it gets translated immediately to listeners preferred language. Marathi language cannot be revived unless the people of Maharashtra adopt a language policy like the one did by the people of Tamilnadu in 1965. Tamilnadu’s rationalist Dravidian movement handled this in a better way than Marathi parties which are actually fallen in to fascism and spiting hatred against individual linguistic cultures like the North Indian(Hindi speaking working class) and South Indians.

      Hindi or Sanskrit imposition has to be fought united by all Non-Hindi speakers from Maharashtra to Tripura and Telangana to Tamilnadu.

      palindia

      September 2, 2014 at 11:37 PM

  10. Hello Palindia,
    Thanks for the write up.
    In the year 1951 fourteen languages (including SANSCRIT) were approved in India.

    In 1951 census status (This year census had an importance in Indian history, because this was the first census taken after Indian independence) and the data shows,

    Tamil speaking population was 3 crores
    Telugu speaking population was 3.1 crores
    Kannada speaking population was 2 crores
    Malayalam speaking population was 1.2 crores

    Sindhi speaking population was 25 lakhs
    Bhojpuri speaking population was 25 lakhs

    Most importantly Sanskrit speaking population was 2,454 at 1951.

    Sindhi, Bhojpuri, Sourashtra all were not an approved language.

    In last 2000 years this language (sanskrit) was in practice by a small bunch of population and that too used in religious rituals.

    Apart from Brahmins no other should learn Sanskrit.

    So it is their problem to give life to Sanskrit, not for any OBC, SC & ST

    In the above said data how Sanskrit got approved. Why Sindhi, Bhojpuri can’t?.

    Sakthi

    September 3, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    • Good Stats Sakthi, It’s a huge scam to include Sanskrit in the 8th schedule of the constitution. While languages spoken by crores of people are not in the list (Sindhi, Tulu, Sourastra, Dogri, Coorgi). What extra privilege Sanskrit has other than being an upper caste language.

      palindia

      September 3, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      • Gandhij ji was in favor of simple script but Nehru decided to write Mogul Urdu in his Brahminical priestly Sanskrit script by modifying few Sanskrit letters and making it unholy. Merchants modified Sanskrit script to present Gujanagari (Gujarati)script so they can write faster with less pen stokes and without nukta(dots below letters) and shirorekha (lines above letters)

        Holy Devanagari script was not taught to masses in the past so why teach it now ?

        Gujanagari script along with Roman script(resembling old Brahmi script) may dissolve Hindi and Urdu History and bring all languages under one roof.

        See how many Devanagari scripted languages are disappearing under the influence of Hindi / Urdu being same sister language.

        Will Urdu survive in Devanagari script?

        Which script will revive all India’s disappearing languages?

        How many Indian languages uses ” hai ” in the sentence?

        Which script requires less pen strokes and uses less printing Ink?

        Are their nukta in Sanskrit script ?

        If Urdu people can learn Hindi in their script why can’t regional states do the same? This way Hindi will be more Indianized than Sanskritized.

        if Devanagari script is so scientific why it lacks these sounds ( ॅ ॉ ॊ ) in traditional alphabet ?
        Can they write chemical and algebraic formulas in Devanagari script?

        If a small country like Thailand can do this why can’t India?

        http://www.commonsenseadvisory.com/Default.aspx?Contenttype=ArticleDetAD&tabID=63&Aid=1180&moduleId=390

        One may read this
        Hindi as UN official language would cost over Rs 82 crore per year
        https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=hi&fromgroups=#!topic/taknikigyan/KbVbQvcXuEw

        Why put additional burden on Indian tax payers?

        Saralhindi

        September 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

      • @Saralhindi, Why you want a common script for India ? While we have so many living scripts. And even if you choose to coin a script why you go for Devanagari (HOLY SCRIPT..Can you prove it??), This is called Language chauvinism. Why don’t you choose to write all languages using Telugu or Kannada script.

        What an Idea sir ji!….. to kill all Non-Devanagri languages.

        palindia

        September 3, 2014 at 10:12 PM

      • I said, in internet age all languages can be learned in your chosen regional script but as per Google Transliteration Gujanagari (Gujarati) seems to be India’s simplest script having no dots below letters and lines above letters. Hindi can easily be simplified in this script. May be we are headed back to the simplicity of Brahmi script via Roman script. May be this is why all Indian languages are taught to others in Roman script and Bollywood scripts and songs are written in this script.

        One may see here script simplification from Sanskrit to Devanagari to Gujanagari.

        http://www.omniglot.com/writing/sanskrit.htm

        http://www.omniglot.com/writing/gujarati.htm

        http://www.omniglot.com/writing/hindi.htm

        See,how many roman letters resemble to Brahmi script.
        http://www.omniglot.com/writing/brahmi.htm

        India needs standard Roman Alphabet for all regional languages.
        Preferred scheme:
        ્,ા,િ,ી,ુ,ૂ,ૅ,ે,ૈ,ૉ,ો,ૌ,ં,ઃ
        a,aa,i,ii,u,uu,ă,e,ai,ŏ,o,au,am,an,ah
        or
        a,aa,i,ii,u,uu,ae,e,ai,aw,o,au,am,an,ah

        ə ɑ ɪ ɪ̈ ʊ ʊ̈ æ ɛ aɪ ɔ o aʊ əm ən əh ………IPA

        All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
        They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act
        towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

        /ɔːl hjuːmən biː.ɪŋz ɑ˞ bɔ˞n fɹiː ænd iːkwəl ɪn dɪɡnətiː ænd ɹaɪts
        ðeɪ ɑ˞ ɪndaʊd wɪð ɹiːzən ænd kɑːnʃəns ænd ʃʊd ækt
        tʊwɔ˞dz wʌn ənʌðə˞ ɪn ə spɪɹɪt ʌv bɹʌðə˞hʊd/……….IPA

        ઑલ્ હ્યુમન્ બિઇન્ગ્ઝ્ આર્ બોર્ન્ ફ્રિ ઍન્ડ્ ઈક્વલ્ ઇન્ ડિગનટિ ઍન્ડ્ રાઇટ્સ્.
        ધે આર્ ઇન્ડાઉડ્ વિથ રીઝન્ ઍન્ડ્ કાન્શન્સ્ ઍન્ડ્ શુડ્ ઍક્ટ્
        ટુવોર્ડ્ઝ્ વન્ અનધર્ ઇન્ અ સ્પિરિટ્ અવ્ બ્રધર્હુડ્…Gujarati

        ఆల్ హ్యుమన్ బిఇన్గ్ఝ్ ఆర్ బోర్న్ ఫ్రి ఎన్డ్ ఈక్వల్ ఇన్ డిగనటి ఎన్డ్ రాఇట్స్.
        ధే ఆర్ ఇన్డాఉడ్ విథ రీఝన్ ఎన్డ్ కాన్శన్స్ ఎన్డ్ శుడ్ ఎక్ట్
        టువోర్డ్ఝ్ వన్ అనధర్ ఇన్ అ స్పిరిట్ అవ్ బ్రధర్హుడ్……..Telugu

        ಆಲ್ ಹ್ಯುಮನ್ ಬಿಇನ್ಗ್ಝ್ ಆರ್ ಬೋರ್ನ್ ಫ್ರಿ ಎನ್ಡ್ ಈಕ್ವಲ್ ಇನ್ ಡಿಗನಟಿ ಎನ್ಡ್ ರಾಇಟ್ಸ್.
        ಧೇ ಆರ್ ಇನ್ಡಾಉಡ್ ವಿಥ ರೀಝನ್ ಎನ್ಡ್ ಕಾನ್ಶನ್ಸ್ ಎನ್ಡ್ ಶುಡ್ ಎಕ್ಟ್
        ಟುವೋರ್ಡ್ಝ್ ವನ್ ಅನಧರ್ ಇನ್ ಅ ಸ್ಪಿರಿಟ್ ಅವ್ ಬ್ರಧರ್ಹುಡ್…Kannada

        ऑल् ह्युमन् बिइन्ग्झ् आर् बोर्न् फ्रि ऍन्ड् ईक्वल् इन् डिगनटि ऍन्ड् राइट्स्.
        धे आर् इन्डाउड् विथ रीझन् ऍन्ड् कान्शन्स् ऍन्ड् शुड् ऍक्ट्
        टुवोर्ड्झ् वन् अनधर् इन् अ स्पिरिट् अव् ब्रधर्हुड्……….Hindi

        /ŏl hyuumən biiingz aar bŏrn frii ănd iikwəl in digətii ănd raaits
        dhei / they aar indaaud widh riizən ănd kaanshəns ănd shud ăkt
        tuwŏrdz wən ənədhər in ə spirit əv brədhərhud/…………IAST (Modified)

        Do we spell all Indian names correctly in Roman script?
        Do news paper write correct pronunciation of English words used in their papers?

        Saralhindi

        September 5, 2014 at 3:48 AM

      • There are so many languages with out a writing system/script. Please spend time in coining script for those languages, instead of wasting time in creating new scripts for languages which are already having rich scripts.

        From your words-> “India needs standard Roman Alphabet for all regional languages”
        What do you mean by regional languages ??

        palindia

        September 5, 2014 at 12:42 PM

  11. Nice article and good observation of History.

    Yogi

    October 29, 2014 at 12:17 PM

  12. Crap story, by a frog in well. @author – First know something about Sanskrit, before talking about it..

    subbu

    November 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    • Thank you subbu,
      You seem to be a snake in the same well.

      palindia

      November 17, 2014 at 11:34 PM

  13. pls contact vinavu@gmail.com

    வினவு!

    November 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM


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